I fell in love with this saddle at the barn when I took lessons. We had one amongst many collegiate, Kirkland etc... It eventually led to our entire class racing to the tack room every week only to find the lesson before us had taken it.The quality of the Camelot is unbeatable in comparison to reasonably priced saddles! I can only imagine how often they cleaned and conditioned the tack (never!) However, it still remained so supple, grippy with no serious blemish. I purchased this saddle for myself and absolutely loved it out of the box! Due to my ignorance I let my daughter give it a run. She is one of those "doesn't matter what kind of saddle I sit in, could go bareback". Of course, she is now the proud owner. It's a forward seat and LOVE the dark brown. She gets so many compliments! Thank You for the quality and affordability as it allows us all to enjoy this wonderful sport!